Theory11 don’t not take this as bickering or bad attitude because I mean this with the highest degree of respect....
Before I go off in to never never land, let me give everyone the back story..... Last week the Pressure teaser came out and in the teaser you could see the effect for a brief second. A few minutes after watching the teaser, I was able to do the effect (or what I believed to be the effect at the time because it was extremely easy to figure out). There was one caveat, the method that I was using, although looked cool didn’t fit the description that theory11 put out. So I scrapped it and waited for Pressure to be released.
Finally it was Friday night and the effect we have been waiting months for is out and about. I downloaded the video watched it and I was furious because it was the same exact trick I was playing with a week before Pressure was released. So very flustered that I had just wasted $20 of my hard earned money, I told 1 or 2 people on aim and tokbox about what happened. Then all of a sudden I was flooded with im’s asking why I hate Pressure and theory11. And I told everyone that im’d me instead of wasting my time telling each individual person I would make a thread about it, and so I have...
Why am I so pissed you ask? Simple, false advertising.
Quoted from theory11: A borrowed cell phone is held in one hand - and a balloon is inflated. The cell phone visually penetrates inside of the balloon. It is shown, then given back to the spectator with the cell phone still inside.
The result is a twisted hybrid of visual craziness: the borrowed cell phone is INSIDE of the balloon. The spectator removes it herself. There are no crazy gimmicks. Any cell phone. Any balloon. Nothing but magic.
On top of that theory11 also said that the spectator could rip the cellphone out themselves as stated by Danny Garcia in the trailer at 1:12. http://www.theory11.com/tricks/pressure.php
Of course you can’t just put the phone in the balloon and hand it to the spectator to rip out as theory11 clearly stated. You must rip the balloon first and THEN the spectator can take their phone out. A $20 difference if you ask me.
There are a couple of other false advertising tidbits laced in the trailer also. For example, when the cellphone penetrates the red balloon, the video shows the cellphone inside the balloon. Then immediately handed out to the spectators. You don’t get to see dan ripping it first which lessons the impact of the effect. Now don’t get me wrong, the effect is awesome and I love it. It is just just falsely advertised.
Control is another good example of false advertising http://www.theory11.com/tricks/control.php Because the effect isn’t shown completely, the camera cuts off where theory11 doesn’t want you to see, yet all the spectators see it in performance. So after getting Control, I was disappointed with the effect. Even more, I was disappointed with the way theory11 had deceived me and all of it’s other customers.
Lastly, the grand daddy of false advertisement: TnR http://www.theory11.com/tricks/tnr.php What is wrong with this effect you ask? It’s COMPLETELY impractical. I could be showing this to a drunk 5 year old in a pitch black room and still get caught. Anyone who says TNR from T11 is practical is a liar and fanboy. Releasing material no one can use is not advancing the art which is supposedly Theory11’s goal. It hurts the art.
So what is my complete and honest point? I am absolutely tired of getting conned by theory11 (and other sites like them) to buy effects that are either falsely advertised and completely impractical, but are thought to be good because of their fancy trailers and video editing skills. This is why exposure is on the rise, no one can be trusted anymore. A one hit wonder such as TnR hits the market and everyone goes crazy because of how awesome it looks, but then are disappointed that they cant perform it.
Although theory11 has some good effects, I believe we have been lied to since the start. Example watch this video again http://whatistheory11.com/ and really listen to what Wayne and Dan White talk about in the beginning. Do all of you honestly think theory11 is what they say? Not me, I think it’s more about the sell than anything else at this point, and thats it. As Aaron Fisher said in that video, finding good information is like finding the needle in the haystack and we thought we could come to theory11 for good information. But it has taken a turn for the worse.
“We don’t wanna have pipe dreams on this site.” –Wayne Houchin
“I think the biggest thing that’s wrong with retail magic is its all about the sell. I feel there’s as much deception with the selling of these tricks as there is in the actual trick itself.” –Dan White
“Half of it’s the show… and the other half is business.” –Lee Asher
“The internet…. Everything is available, but the problem is, good information is like finding the needle in a haystack.” –Aaron Fisher
Final summation, please theory11 stop misleading us and treating us like numbers instead of people. If you really did mean what you said in that video then go back watch it again and revaluate your company. Because we were promised something new not the same old same old. And all we are getting is the same old same old. And I mean that with complete respect.
What say you?
-Michael
Before I go off in to never never land, let me give everyone the back story..... Last week the Pressure teaser came out and in the teaser you could see the effect for a brief second. A few minutes after watching the teaser, I was able to do the effect (or what I believed to be the effect at the time because it was extremely easy to figure out). There was one caveat, the method that I was using, although looked cool didn’t fit the description that theory11 put out. So I scrapped it and waited for Pressure to be released.
Finally it was Friday night and the effect we have been waiting months for is out and about. I downloaded the video watched it and I was furious because it was the same exact trick I was playing with a week before Pressure was released. So very flustered that I had just wasted $20 of my hard earned money, I told 1 or 2 people on aim and tokbox about what happened. Then all of a sudden I was flooded with im’s asking why I hate Pressure and theory11. And I told everyone that im’d me instead of wasting my time telling each individual person I would make a thread about it, and so I have...
Why am I so pissed you ask? Simple, false advertising.
Quoted from theory11: A borrowed cell phone is held in one hand - and a balloon is inflated. The cell phone visually penetrates inside of the balloon. It is shown, then given back to the spectator with the cell phone still inside.
The result is a twisted hybrid of visual craziness: the borrowed cell phone is INSIDE of the balloon. The spectator removes it herself. There are no crazy gimmicks. Any cell phone. Any balloon. Nothing but magic.
On top of that theory11 also said that the spectator could rip the cellphone out themselves as stated by Danny Garcia in the trailer at 1:12. http://www.theory11.com/tricks/pressure.php
Of course you can’t just put the phone in the balloon and hand it to the spectator to rip out as theory11 clearly stated. You must rip the balloon first and THEN the spectator can take their phone out. A $20 difference if you ask me.
There are a couple of other false advertising tidbits laced in the trailer also. For example, when the cellphone penetrates the red balloon, the video shows the cellphone inside the balloon. Then immediately handed out to the spectators. You don’t get to see dan ripping it first which lessons the impact of the effect. Now don’t get me wrong, the effect is awesome and I love it. It is just just falsely advertised.
Control is another good example of false advertising http://www.theory11.com/tricks/control.php Because the effect isn’t shown completely, the camera cuts off where theory11 doesn’t want you to see, yet all the spectators see it in performance. So after getting Control, I was disappointed with the effect. Even more, I was disappointed with the way theory11 had deceived me and all of it’s other customers.
Lastly, the grand daddy of false advertisement: TnR http://www.theory11.com/tricks/tnr.php What is wrong with this effect you ask? It’s COMPLETELY impractical. I could be showing this to a drunk 5 year old in a pitch black room and still get caught. Anyone who says TNR from T11 is practical is a liar and fanboy. Releasing material no one can use is not advancing the art which is supposedly Theory11’s goal. It hurts the art.
So what is my complete and honest point? I am absolutely tired of getting conned by theory11 (and other sites like them) to buy effects that are either falsely advertised and completely impractical, but are thought to be good because of their fancy trailers and video editing skills. This is why exposure is on the rise, no one can be trusted anymore. A one hit wonder such as TnR hits the market and everyone goes crazy because of how awesome it looks, but then are disappointed that they cant perform it.
Although theory11 has some good effects, I believe we have been lied to since the start. Example watch this video again http://whatistheory11.com/ and really listen to what Wayne and Dan White talk about in the beginning. Do all of you honestly think theory11 is what they say? Not me, I think it’s more about the sell than anything else at this point, and thats it. As Aaron Fisher said in that video, finding good information is like finding the needle in the haystack and we thought we could come to theory11 for good information. But it has taken a turn for the worse.
“We don’t wanna have pipe dreams on this site.” –Wayne Houchin
“I think the biggest thing that’s wrong with retail magic is its all about the sell. I feel there’s as much deception with the selling of these tricks as there is in the actual trick itself.” –Dan White
“Half of it’s the show… and the other half is business.” –Lee Asher
“The internet…. Everything is available, but the problem is, good information is like finding the needle in a haystack.” –Aaron Fisher
Final summation, please theory11 stop misleading us and treating us like numbers instead of people. If you really did mean what you said in that video then go back watch it again and revaluate your company. Because we were promised something new not the same old same old. And all we are getting is the same old same old. And I mean that with complete respect.
What say you?
-Michael
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