Cinders by Dee Christopher

Discussion in 'Product Questions and Reviews' started by Michael Kras, Sep 9, 2008.

  1. Can't wait!:D

    Get on it Chris, get right on it!

    Fancy coming to Notts tonight by the way? I've got a crazy invitation only performance in some haunted underground caves for a TV channel launch :p haha!

  2. Mate you know I'd love to, but I can't get out of work tomorrow and train tix will be sky high at this short notice!

    Give me some more notice next time dude and I'll see what I can do!

    I'll get on the film trail ASAP fellarino!

  3. BUT!

    You just KNOW you should do a quick clip of 'child-lock' if you're filming!

    Just sell it as a hypno trick or something!

  4. Thanks Dee, as well as everyone else, for the "angle" replies. I'll be "adding this to cart" in a few moments. Sounds like a winner! :cool:
  5. Awesome, Nice one man - I'm waiting for your order so I can email it out right away like I did Ben's moments ago!;)

    And Chris, I haven't made the gimmick yet!:( I've been to busy getting to grips with my new IMB and working out how to play the show that I've not had a chance!

    I'll get on it though dude, I've got a perfect idea for it ;)

  6. I will hunt you down.

    - Sean
  7. No worries man, Just let me know when you do fancy performing it and I'll give you a couple tips on the 'Open Switch' I like to use in walk around work!

  8. Awesome!:)

    I've got a real nice cop and pull outta sleeve style deck switch, but I usually only use one deck so never do it!:p

    You gonna come Sean? it'd be cool to see you - but if you bring any friends they must be over 18 too!
  9. Your switch will be similar to mine then- the deck whixcch is switched in comes from the sleeve. It's basically Dave Forrests deck production but we ditch the other deck as well!

    And yeah, I generally only work one deck too, I actually only switch out (if at all sometimes) for the closer!

  10. Haha, Tom Thumb - The ultimate closer! - Go to the forums, by some Lafferty guy :S

  11. My god, Lafferty's a doofus...

  12. I've heard that, though I hear that it was actually him that started that rumor so that people would notice him :p

    Then again, He does like to mix hot chocolate with fire :p

    Anyway - Back on topic! Anyone else from T11 pick up Cinders? There's gotta be some more! Let me know your thoughts guys!

  13. Nah man, I gotta homesit whilst my dearest mother goes to work on the night shift. Would've been cool though man! :D

    But yeah, on topic - Cinders looks very cool; I may pick this up at a later stage just to enhance my tiny knowledge. Not my style unfortunately, but mad props to DeeCrizzle for being a mad creator.

    - Sean
  14. Haha, Well I am rather 'mad' as you say!;)

    You should see the version of Daniel's Angle Zero I'm doing at my gig tonight, I've turned it into some crazy 3 phase routine :p

  15. ^^sounds sick, good luck with the gig man.
    I just ordered cinders, good old brothers paypal :)
    Unfortunately I'll be out from now to sometime tomorrow morning *coughdrinkingcough*
    But I've got the day off tomorrow and cards and a lighter just lying around :)
  16. It's already in your inbox man. Well, whatever one came with the paypal, so I assume your brothers!

  17. I recently recieved an ebook of this effect and have been practicing with an old deck. Before I get to the meat and potatoes of the review, let me first get a couple quick thoughts out of the way.

    First of all, fire is inherently dramatic. While I certainly don't recommend it for everyone, nor would I try to create an entire show based on fire, it can be used to add an element of danger and the unpredictable to a routine and spice things up a bit. Torched and restored effects provide an interesting variant on the basic T&R plot, and one which I actually prefer.

    Also, it has occurred to me that card effects can get a little dull very quickly. Reading through some manuals on card magic is like trying to slog my way through a spreadsheet charting the rate at which a pot of water boils while Ben Stein stands behind me and drones on about economics. Card magic really needs a lot more personality injected into it, and unfortunately teaching that can be a bit of a challenge.

    All that said, Cinders provides a clever little method that can be performed impromptu and with a borrowed deck, though generally you'll want to have the time to perform the quick set-up necessary.

    Yes, there is a set-up, which tends to defeat the purpose of impromptu, but I count it as such anyway because it can be done on the fly. It just requires some clever scripting and misdirection on your part. Getting it ready might be a little knacky for some people at first, so the set-up situation really is ideal.

    Dee says this can be done with a borrowed deck, and technically he is correct. However I wouldn't do this myself as the process of clean-up, no matter how well it slips unnoticed may bring up... certain questions later. If you think you can manage yourself enough that this will never be an issue (and certainly that is very possible), disregard this whole paragraph. It's merely a matter of personal taste.

    The only real disadvantage to Cinders is that it's not angle-proof. Angles are going to be a problem, especially if you're feeling paranoid about singing your fingers. Not that I can say I blame you, as burn wounds stick out in my mind as one of the most singularly unpleasant injuries of all. But the fact remains that you probably will have to practice in front of a mirror or camera for a while to learn how to avoid flashing. It's true that angles tend to be a problem with most restoration effects, but this effect presents its own unique challenges.

    Mechanics out of the way, the effect does play very smoothly. Unlike many other effects involving flash paper, Cinders doesn't go for the big surprise, but rather a slow build-up and revelation. To do the effect justice you really need to be patient and let the anticipation do its job.

    If you just burned the card for a few seconds, waved your hand, and restored it, the whole thing would look cool but it would also be a let-down because people need time to absorb everything.

    However if you slowly let the card enough to leave an obvious scorched chunk taken out of it, and very slowly restore it, there's more drama.

    In summary, if you're looking for something a little off-beat and even a little dangerous, check it out. It's a nice little conclusion for a small performance and its different enough from what most people expect to leave a big impact.

    If on the other hand you want something to just show off, don't talk to me.
  18. wow thats great! I really want this! I am not sure who you are dee, are you like famus? thats cool great effect.
  19. of course

    of course he's famous!!

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