First off all I have to agree entirely with steerpike and Dragon posts, and that said... Uknown magician, your whole first post was to me like "I dont like being criticise by the "so call" pros, and I dont like the favouritism either" To me thats bull, I used to hang a lot in the decknique forums but I didnt post because I wasnt in a position to talk, rather than that, I enjoyed watching new videos and the criticis to them what I saw there was that the general response to a new video (considering that the only intro to the video was "Here is my video, enjoy and tell me what you think about it") was: "Its looking good, but you have to smooth some parts, it lacks originality." "you are doing good I only didnt like this part(insert flourish here)" "it was okay, 3/5 stars from me dogg" Even when a member posted as a description of his video"this is my first video, and I know I lack originality" the responses were good and none of them called him out on that. So, considering that you only have a month flourishing and knowing how the bussines is, I dont think you are in a position to talk,seriously. BTW, one of the only things that have gained bashing from members to a new video is when the video creator doesnt credits the people that created the flourishes. Get informed and stop your attemps to do controversial threads, you are just drowning yourself. Another thing, calling out either steerpike or Dragon is weak, be a man and for once listen to what they are telling you because you are getting so obstinate that you are not listening, the only people supporting you(no offense) are people that either dont flourish or that just know how to do the werm and they consider themselves flourishes, and again, see the people that are against you. PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY KNOW THEIR STUFF. And if you try to make a come back, make it a good one. please. EDIT::// and just for the record, the people that actually are pros arent like hating the "noobs" as you call them, when I started in the flourishing thing I asked for help to both Viet and Eugene, and they both helped me a lot.