Faded, RD, one of the better discussions I've seen on here for a while. I'm at uni so I won't stay long, except to add and reiterate my previous example of dance: It's unheard of, at least for me, to have dance without sound or some sort of musical accompaniment. I think it's fair to say that dance doesn't stand on its own. Even if we push it towards the field of acrobatics... What does dance express without music? I think that the two are practically symbiotic.